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Post by BoxGods on Nov 11, 2023 2:43:12 GMT
That’s a good point about the oil/lubricant from the air compressor. I never thought of that. You’re right, a pump is the way to go. As for an R1S sub trunk water tank, I obviously would be interested if you ever made one. And since there is way more buyers for the R1S in general, would it be worth putting out feelers for it? I want to design one anyway so just some lost time at most to publish some renders to see if there is enough interest. Be thinking about where you would want the fill and sprayer outlets, etc. and when I have some time we can start a discussion about specifics.
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Post by LV on Nov 19, 2023 15:55:01 GMT
Thanks for considering a R1S sub-trunk water tank. It could be a popular product.
It seems like the right side would be best for the fill and sprayer outlet, so they're not in the way of the power on the left side of the R1S trunk. And since stuff like the Thunderbolt Adventure Supply Kitchen for the R1S has the sink on the right it might make sense. What do you think?
I also had a really really really CRAZY idea for heating the water and wanted to see what you think: What if there was an optional opening in the water tank where you could fit a cheap-ish sous-vide machine like an Anova Nano Cooker and use that to heat the water inside the tank. Maybe even putting this port near the sprayer outlet might make it slightly more efficient in use??? I know it's crazy and might not work... and obviously, it'd take a while to heat that much water to any usable temp but if the tank just had an opening that's big enough to fit a device like that it might be worth exploring in your design.
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Post by BoxGods on Nov 19, 2023 19:07:07 GMT
Thanks for considering a R1S sub-trunk water tank. It could be a popular product. It seems like the right side would be best for the fill and sprayer outlet, so they're not in the way of the power on the left side of the R1S trunk. And since stuff like the Thunderbolt Adventure Supply Kitchen for the R1S has the sink on the right it might make sense. What do you think? I also had a really really really CRAZY idea for heating the water and wanted to see what you think: What if there was an optional opening in the water tank where you could fit a cheap-ish sous-vide machine like an Anova Nano Cooker and use that to heat the water inside the tank. Maybe even putting this port near the sprayer outlet might make it slightly more efficient in use??? I know it's crazy and might not work... and obviously, it'd take a while to heat that much water to any usable temp but if the tank just had an opening that's big enough to fit a device like that it might be worth exploring in your design. You wouldn't need to use anything as exotic/expensive as a sous-vied machine as screw in 12V water heater elements are common and inexpensive. Similar to this: www.dernord.com/products/12v-300w-water-heater-element-stainless-steel-heating-element-with-1-inch-npt?variant=39432427995172¤cy=USD&utm_medium=product_sync&utm_source=google&utm_content=sag_organic&utm_campaign=sag_organic&gad_source=1&gclid=CjwKCAiAgeeqBhBAEiwAoDDhnybZkFLSPiwfemwpseCf2ON4DEyNAONBcvK3MlzTr_pGbKPnJYDsbBoCtMQQAvD_BwEI've had a fair bit of apprehension in the past about using plastic for hot water tanks--water expands when heated which can increase pressure in the tank substantially--but plastic hot water tanks have become fairly standard in the last decade and there is a lot of engineering data available now. Enough so that I want to revisit / research the feasibility. I do think it's possible but power usage would need to be a serious consideration. If the truck has about 1,000W of available output and you're using 300W for the water heater and say 100W for your cooler you don't have a lot left for say a cooktop. You would also want to super insulate the water tank(obviously). Certainly manageable--just switch the cooler and water heater off while you're cooking. Lots to think about.
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Post by LV on Nov 29, 2023 19:38:26 GMT
I'm not a scientist nor engineer... but in my personal experience static heater elements like that don't work well unless they're at the bottom of a cylindrical tank (like a household water heater). I've used a RinseKit and it has a similar static heating element that you screw in from the top and it doesn't heat the water well or evenly. I think a static heating element might work if there was some water movement in the tank, hence the out of the box idea of using a sous vide machine. Not looking for anything crazy just a re-sealable opening about three inches in diameter should allow for most sous vide machines to fit inside the tank.
As for tank pressure and sustainability, personally I would only heat the water in a tank to about the temp of the hot water in my house, which is set at 108F. As for pressure, I assume at 108F the expansion would be minimal and whatever you've designed in the tank to let air in the tank as the water goes out might be enough to compensate.
Power is definitely a concern, but again for my use case it would only be heating the water shortly before use. And with the 1500W onboard inverter, there would definitely be some power management when the water heater is turned on but nothing too crazy.
Again, I'm no scientist nor engineer... these are just my personal observations camping.
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Post by BoxGods on Nov 30, 2023 8:01:56 GMT
I'm not a scientist nor engineer... but in my personal experience static heater elements like that don't work well unless they're at the bottom of a cylindrical tank (like a household water heater). I've used a RinseKit and it has a similar static heating element that you screw in from the top and it doesn't heat the water well or evenly. I think a static heating element might work if there was some water movement in the tank, hence the out of the box idea of using a sous vide machine. Not looking for anything crazy just a re-sealable opening about three inches in diameter should allow for most sous vide machines to fit inside the tank. As for tank pressure and sustainability, personally I would only heat the water in a tank to about the temp of the hot water in my house, which is set at 108F. As for pressure, I assume at 108F the expansion would be minimal and whatever you've designed in the tank to let air in the tank as the water goes out might be enough to compensate. Power is definitely a concern, but again for my use case it would only be heating the water shortly before use. And with the 1500W onboard inverter, there would definitely be some power management when the water heater is turned on but nothing too crazy. Again, I'm no scientist nor engineer... these are just my personal observations camping. I wouldn't screw it in the top either. Convection would likely be sufficient for "mixing". Lots of testing to optimize everything of course.
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Post by mango on Dec 2, 2023 21:45:45 GMT
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Post by BoxGods on Dec 4, 2023 4:14:58 GMT
So in the rear under storage of the S?
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