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Post by BoxGods on Feb 17, 2023 20:48:14 GMT
Received and paid the deposit. Hopefully, I was the odd person out, but I checked and did not receive the email prior to the most recent re-send of it. Thanks for making all of this happen. Thanks for taking the time to follow through on this =)
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jcreviston
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Post by jcreviston on Feb 23, 2023 6:04:28 GMT
Wondering if you've considered adding integrated electrical receptacles into the kitchen? It would be nice to have convenient options (e.g., flush counter or side access) for using devices such as electric kettle, crock pot, rice cooker, etc., etc. Thanks
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Post by BoxGods on Feb 23, 2023 8:50:01 GMT
Wondering if you've considered adding integrated electrical receptacles into the kitchen? It would be nice to have convenient options (e.g., flush counter or side access) for using devices such as electric kettle, crock pot, rice cooker, etc., etc. Thanks Sure. How else would we run the blender for Margarita's? Kidding aside, it IS going to require people to do a little bit of power management because from everything I have read the gear tunnel power output is capped at 1500 watts. The biggest draw is the two burner cook top of course. It isn't a huge deal--more like something users will need to be mindful of. You can't have both burners cranked up, the water pump going, and the blender or it will trip the breaker. I am curious how many people will run the camp kitchen exclusively off of the Trucks battery--aka boon-docking--and how many will occasionally plug into shore power at a campground? Would it be worth having provisions for both? I ask because the cooktop, as one example, could potentially draw more than the 1500 watts the truck can output all by itself. A 2000 watt cooktop with both burners turned up to their max would trip the breaker. So do you limit the stoves max output to 1500w or keep it at 2,000w and let users manage it themselves--don't crank both up to full blast--while on the trucks batteries. That way if they ever are plugged in at a campground they have access to the full 2,000 watts?
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Post by jcreviston on Feb 26, 2023 4:29:32 GMT
I can't speak for others but I would really like having both options. Though I haven't used them in the past, seems most induction tops have switchable power settings by wattage. Is this what you're planning? I could imagine this getting complicated pretty fast but wonder if there's a relatively simple way to have switchable power regulation by "boon-dock" vs "shore power" i.e., cooktop max power drops to 1500 watts or less when boon docking and has full power capacity when on shore? I guess that doesn't solve the issue of potential overload from concurrent use of additional kitchen receptacles when boon docking. Regardless, for my purposes having shore and truck power options and additional receptacles would be great. Thanks for listening and appreciate all your effort. Cheers!
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Post by BoxGods on Feb 27, 2023 9:45:01 GMT
Very interesting! Two questions for now: 1) Is the sink basically just a tub to hold water? ie. is there any water storage/faucet/spray nozzle included in the design like the Rivian? 2) Is the stove type induction? Thanks! The sink includes a fold down RV style faucet. It also has a cover so you can use it as an extra prep surface, and is insulated so it can serve as a day cooler / ice chest. Yes there is a drain and provisions for potable water storage--2.5 gallons in the slide out or 12 gallons supplied via the frunk tank, (the more usable option IMO as storing water in the slide out itself is a waste of valuable space.). The "standard" cooktop is induction but we will likely offer an option with no opening cut into the counter top for those that want to either use a counter top propane stove or want to inset a different stove top--again propane or similar.
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Post by CopeR1T on Mar 14, 2023 20:41:58 GMT
I just tried to get on the order list for the slide out kitchen (and I’ll need the slider rail setup too). Have you reached the 50 order threshold yet? I was a couple weeks late for the initial cooler and water tank reservation list - so I’m hoping to get in for the 1st phase on kitchen production. Please advise as time allows. Thanks for developing the concepts to fill in the blanks for Rivian!
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Post by BoxGods on Mar 15, 2023 5:43:25 GMT
I just tried to get on the order list for the slide out kitchen (and I’ll need the slider rail setup too). Have you reached the 50 order threshold yet? I was a couple weeks late for the initial cooler and water tank reservation list - so I’m hoping to get in for the 1st phase on kitchen production. Please advise as time allows. Thanks for developing the concepts to fill in the blanks for Rivian! Yes we have reached 50 signups. You can see the current numbers on the news chyron located at the top of this forums home page. You should email Marsha--her link is in the OP--as she may be able to add you to the first run of the water tank still. We are not "locked in" until the mold tooling arrives at the factory. If you're interested I would not wait.
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Post by bksnacker on Mar 15, 2023 23:42:51 GMT
Would it be possible to provide an option for an extra set of slide rails when ordering the kitchen? I see some utility in being able to mount a set of rails outside the vehicle for storage. Better yet, I'd like to have a way of making the kitchen useful when "stored" away from the truck. I could see building a gear tunnel-like cabinet into an outdoor kitchen setup. Gives you a place to put the kitchen when not in the truck where you can still use it.
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Post by BoxGods on Mar 16, 2023 0:47:43 GMT
Would it be possible to provide an option for an extra set of slide rails when ordering the kitchen? I see some utility in being able to mount a set of rails outside the vehicle for storage. Better yet, I'd like to have a way of making the kitchen useful when "stored" away from the truck. I could see building a gear tunnel-like cabinet into an outdoor kitchen setup. Gives you a place to put the kitchen when not in the truck where you can still use it. I have posted pictures of a cart option that you can load the kitchen onto and wheel it around: rivian-aftermarket.proboards.com/post/128It's for one of the earlier design versions but the concept is still the same. I am going to design a similar cart for the final kitchen iteration that will make it easier to move / use the kitchen outside the truck. I will also likely offer the cart as a flat pack option or at the very least include a cut list for your local lumber store--it will depend on what people prefer. IOW it will be more simple and easier to use than the original concept shown in the link above.
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Post by jblakeney on Mar 25, 2023 16:17:42 GMT
Hey are orders still open for the camp kitchen or are you full? Any production updates?
Thanks!
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Post by BoxGods on Mar 26, 2023 19:36:55 GMT
Hey are orders still open for the camp kitchen or are you full? Any production updates? Thanks! You can still sign up if you are interested in the Camp Kitchen on the sign up page HERE. As for updates, I am working on the slide mechanism used for both the Slide out Utility Tray and Camp Kitchen now. The Utility Tray ship date is mid to late May and I am hoping the Camp Kitchen will be ready mid to late Summer. If you keep up with the Utility Tray thread a lot of that information relates to the Camp Kitchen.
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Post by jblakeney on Mar 29, 2023 5:46:33 GMT
Ok thanks I did sign up at that link but never got a reply so wasn’t sure
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Post by BoxGods on Mar 29, 2023 12:34:57 GMT
Ok thanks I did sign up at that link but never got a reply so wasn’t sure I had a peek at the master list and you're not on there yet. I think Marsha is updating the list in batches twice a week rather than adding people in one or two at a time as it is more efficient that way. She does send out a confirmation when adding names so give it a few days.
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Post by BoxGods on Mar 31, 2023 5:20:41 GMT
This update is on the support leg and is a bit of a "deep dive" for those of you interested in the details so it's going to be a fairly long read.
One concern I have with the leg is the potential for accidents resulting from adjusting the trucks suspension height with the support leg already deployed. The scenario would run something like this:
You've driven 50 miles into the wilderness over some fairly uneven terrain so you have the suspension set to high or at least the middle rang. You've found a spectacular camp site location and everyone jumps out to get set up. Slide the kitchen out, put down the support leg, pitch your tent, etc. Later that evening you start cooking and your wife says something like, "I don't remember the counter being this high on the last trip." and you realize you forgot to lower the suspension so you hop into the truck and start lowering it--without remembering that you've already "put down the landing gear" on the slide out.
The slide rails for the kitchen will be rated at something like 400 - 450 pounds--nowhere near enough to support the 5,000 pounds of truck being piled onto it, so something is going to break. Obviously nobody wants that to be their truck, and I don't want it to be the camp kitchen, so the solution is a preassigned weak point or controlled failure point. Breaking one thing to prevent breaking something more valuable or to avoid injury is fine but the dilemma doesn't really end there because we're 50 miles out in the wilderness with a 5 foot long 250 pound kitchen sticking out the side of the truck.
Ideally that pre-designed break point doesn't prevent the support leg from being removed--without having to hack off some mangled "undercarriage"--and the kitchen from being slid back into the gear tunnel. I would also like the break point safety mechanism that just prevented an accident to be easily and cheaply reset for future use. I would also like a leg design that doesn't get loaded up from the force and then release all that stored energy when the break point triggers--like a compound bow.
The leg also needs to be reasonably easy to set up and to adjust the height as needed for different terrain. I live in South Texas so the sun shade / umbrella from the original concept is a must as well. I'll try and explain the design with some renders and a description below.The two brackets and tube section between them are mounted inside the cabinet to one of the internal load bearing bulkheads via the 4 bolt holes--2 per bracket. I'm not showing the cabinet or that bulkhead for better visibility.This is the mounting brackets with tube, top cap, the support leg, and the height adjuster foot. To adjust the height turn the foot--clockwise to make it shorter, counter-clockwise to make it longer. Pretty standard stuff. There will be about 2-3 inches of travel. This shows the mounting brackets and tube with a simulated countertop so you can get a sense of where it fits--still not showing the cabinet or internal bulkhead.
T his is a top view showing the top plate and mounting tube. You can see three small brass pins for the twist lock. This show the leg being inserted into the mounting tube. You can see the twist lock L tracks for the brass pins and above those there are three white nylon set screws that connect the outer support ring to the leg tube--one of them is out of view on the right side. Those nylon shear pins are what allow us to fine tune the legs weight carrying capacity. We can select a grade of nylon and adjust the number of shear pins so that ideally the leg supports up to say 300 pounds but at 350 pounds the pins shear off and the leg is freed up.Because they are essentially threaded 6mm set screws with a specially CNC machined end shape they are inexpensive and very easily replaced--no need to tear the cabinet apart or anything like that. $5 and 5 minutes to replace and you're back in business. This is the leg fully inserted and the twist lock engaged. As I mentioned earlier this is also where you can install the 6 foot umbrella.
If you have any questions please let me know =)
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Post by jcreviston on Apr 1, 2023 5:58:24 GMT
Thoughtful. I'm concerned 2-3" is a pretty tight tolerance for the leg. Does this assume that one would nearly always have to have the truck at the same height i.e., adjust the truck's height to accommodate the leg brace's effective range/operability? I'm assuming it would be the lowest setting? I'm also envisioning backcountry scenarios where the truck is on a grade and the user needing to account for lesser/greater distance from kitchen to the ground. Lastly, if the non-adjustable part of the leg is a uniform length, is the 2-3" adjustable range impacted by tire and wheel variations? I love the breakaway set screws and encased umbrella holder but could see desiring more overall adjustable range for the leg. Thanks and hope this made sense.
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