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Post by Patrick on Nov 5, 2023 3:52:22 GMT
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Post by BoxGods on Nov 5, 2023 17:08:34 GMT
A bit generic but a few interesting ideas. It sure would have been easier if Rivian had made the gear tunnel rectangular =)
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Post by zac on Dec 19, 2023 8:49:27 GMT
Given all the activity in the slide out utility tray project, I was wondering if the camp kitchen project been delayed or does the work on the utility tray project help move the camp kitchen along?
It would be great to have a camp kitchen ready for Spring/Summer camping season! Fingers crossed!
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Post by BoxGods on Dec 19, 2023 16:28:21 GMT
Given all the activity in the slide out utility tray project, I was wondering if the camp kitchen project been delayed or does the work on the utility tray project help move the camp kitchen along? It would be great to have a camp kitchen ready for Spring/Summer camping season! Fingers crossed! I'm working on both simultaneously because the Camp Kitchen is designed to use the same base / slide tray for "fast" swapping between the two. Essentially you slide the utility tray out, undo a few screws and lift the "drawer" off the slide. Then drop the camp kitchen on the slide and put the screws back in to secure it. reverse the procedure to switch back to the utility tray. I'm going to try my best to have the Camp kitchen ship as close to the same time as I can but it is a bit more involved to manufacture so it may end up coming 4 to 6 weeks later.
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Post by zac on Dec 20, 2023 7:37:24 GMT
Given all the activity in the slide out utility tray project, I was wondering if the camp kitchen project been delayed or does the work on the utility tray project help move the camp kitchen along? It would be great to have a camp kitchen ready for Spring/Summer camping season! Fingers crossed! I'm working on both simultaneously because the Camp Kitchen is designed to use the same base / slide tray for "fast" swapping between the two. Essentially you slide the utility tray out, undo a few screws and lift the "drawer" off the slide. Then drop the camp kitchen on the slide and put the screws back in to secure it. reverse the procedure to switch back to the utility tray. I'm going to try my best to have the Camp kitchen ship as close to the same time as I can but it is a bit more involved to manufacture so it may end up coming 4 to 6 weeks later. Excellent! I'm excited and can't wait for the Camp Kitchen. Do you have any updated design schematics or pictures you can share?
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Post by BoxGods on Dec 20, 2023 18:18:51 GMT
I'm working on both simultaneously because the Camp Kitchen is designed to use the same base / slide tray for "fast" swapping between the two. Essentially you slide the utility tray out, undo a few screws and lift the "drawer" off the slide. Then drop the camp kitchen on the slide and put the screws back in to secure it. reverse the procedure to switch back to the utility tray. I'm going to try my best to have the Camp kitchen ship as close to the same time as I can but it is a bit more involved to manufacture so it may end up coming 4 to 6 weeks later. Excellent! I'm excited and can't wait for the Camp Kitchen. Do you have any updated design schematics or pictures you can share? I will after Christmas. I will be getting with everyone who signed up for the Camp Kitchen to go over some of the various options, explain my thinking on some of the design choices etc. Basically start dialing in the little / fine details.
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Post by gg on Dec 23, 2023 22:46:44 GMT
question on the slide tray only.. what is the planned clear dimension from top of the bottom tray to truck side panel at opening? every inch will help!
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Post by BoxGods on Dec 24, 2023 18:56:03 GMT
question on the slide tray only.. what is the planned clear dimension from top of the bottom tray to truck side panel at opening? every inch will help! I'm not sure how to parse your question--it's not the way you asked it as writing out descriptions for stuff like this is hard because there really are not a lot of set terms.
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Post by BoxGods on Jan 2, 2024 1:48:42 GMT
A little update. I don't want you guys thinking I've been slacking off for the Holidays =) 120V power systems for the Slide Out Utility Tray and the Camp Kitchen. Now to figure out the manufacturing =)
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Post by phatdaddy on Jan 2, 2024 4:29:25 GMT
Progress is progress! Thanks for the update. But now…after 2.5 years, my R1T was finally delivered 12/30… and will now be joined with the oh-so-impressive frunk water tank received months ago. But that means for me personally this is now finally REAL! So a ‘really great’ slide out solution, s00ner, will become increasingly more important to me over a ‘perfect’ solution… much later. I am just so impressed with the engineering and quality of the water tank product, I don’t want to seem ungrateful for the effort it obviously takes to deliver such great products! But then again, I SO need the slide out solution… and am SO stoked about a coordinated camp kitchen… I can hardly stand it! But you do you and let the community know what you need from us… besides patience. Thanks.
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Post by BoxGods on Jan 2, 2024 7:39:19 GMT
Progress is progress! Thanks for the update. But now…after 2.5 years, my R1T was finally delivered 12/30… and will now be joined with the oh-so-impressive frunk water tank received months ago. But that means for me personally this is now finally REAL! So a ‘really great’ slide out solution, s00ner, will become increasingly more important to me over a ‘perfect’ solution… much later. I am just so impressed with the engineering and quality of the water tank product, I don’t want to seem ungrateful for the effort it obviously takes to deliver such great products! But then again, I SO need the slide out solution… and am SO stoked about a coordinated camp kitchen… I can hardly stand it! But you do you and let the community know what you need from us… besides patience. Thanks. Man you must be feeling like a kid at the worlds coolest amusement park right about now =) I am actually making pretty good progress so it won't be THAT long. More updates on both the Utility Tray and Camp Kitchen coming soon.
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Post by BoxGods on Jan 17, 2024 5:11:38 GMT
Hey everyone =) Just posted a small update in the Slide Out Utility Tray thread that is somewhat related to the Camp Kitchen project as the kitchen will "drop" into the tray for faster swapping. rivian-aftermarket.proboards.com/post/1049Now that the Utility Tray is very nearly design locked I can start fine tuning the kitchen design for production. The goal is still to have the kitchen ship as soon after the tray as I can manage. Hopefully a month or less. I should have a more updates with renders in the next few weeks to get feedback from you guys so I can start locking down the details. Stay tuned =)
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Post by phatdaddy on Jan 18, 2024 5:43:43 GMT
As design has firmed up, I was wondering if you could indulge a few questions regarding a very particular use case:
Mostly this relates to camp kitchen design, but since that is inextricably linked to the slide out… well, anyway:
I am in design phase on a new detached garage/Accessory Dwelling Unit (ADU) that will house my R1T. I am limited to 600 sq. ft., so every inch counts. My plan is to utilize the Camp Kitchen - when it is not in the Rivian - as a significant part of my kitchen/cooking set up for the ADU portion of the building. Given the design limitations of the ‘tiny house’ -like space, and taking room for a tiny bathroom, there are only a few options for location of the ‘cooking space’. So my primary questions (to help me plan working room, electrical, and plumbing are:
1. When removed from the gear tunnel, will the components on the Camp Kitchen (CK) be able to sit level and be temporarily attached to a surface such as a cabinet/counter so as to be stable and usable (‘openable’ if that applies… attached so as to be secure in any ‘cantilever’ type situation)? Hopefully using the same attachment points/mechanisms as used to attach to the gear tunnel sled.
2. When removed from the gear tunnel, will the CK be able to be positioned with one side (one of the long edges) up against a wall such that it is still generally usable (fully? mostly?)? For example the CK from Thunderbolt Adventure Supply opens up like a clam shell… which would allow it to be positioned against a wall and still be fully opened because it would extend out away away from the wall.
3. When removed from the gear tunnel, will there be any CK features that will likely be unusable (or much less usable) because they are only usable if able to be approached from a specific side? For example if there are drawers planned to extend from both long sides, or sink/burner controls are only accessible from a specific side that might be against a wall in my use case.
4. When removed from the gear tunnel, if positioned with one side (one of the long edges) up against a wall, will the CK be fully usable within the 60” or so length… or are there features (drawers, etc) that will only be usable if extended beyond the 60” length footprint (for example drawers that would pull out from one end)?
5. When removed from the gear tunnel, will there be a way to still utilize any of the CK power distribution/outlets? For example, will it be as easy as just plugging the CK ‘master’ power cord into a wall outlet instead of a gear tunnel or gear tunnel sled outlet? Or because of the power distribution specifics being built into the gear sled, will power connections not be possible/accessible when the CK is detached from the sled?
I realize this is a lot of specifics… any thoughts you can provide will help. Building design is well on its way… Thanks.
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Post by BoxGods on Jan 18, 2024 10:17:11 GMT
As design has firmed up, I was wondering if you could indulge a few questions regarding a very particular use case: Mostly this relates to camp kitchen design, but since that is inextricably linked to the slide out… well, anyway: I am in design phase on a new detached garage/Accessory Dwelling Unit (ADU) that will house my R1T. I am limited to 600 sq. ft., so every inch counts. My plan is to utilize the Camp Kitchen - when it is not in the Rivian - as a significant part of my kitchen/cooking set up for the ADU portion of the building. Given the design limitations of the ‘tiny house’ -like space, and taking room for a tiny bathroom, there are only a few options for location of the ‘cooking space’. So my primary questions (to help me plan working room, electrical, and plumbing are: 1. When removed from the gear tunnel, will the components on the Camp Kitchen (CK) be able to sit level and be temporarily attached to a surface such as a cabinet/counter so as to be stable and usable (‘openable’ if that applies… attached so as to be secure in any ‘cantilever’ type situation)? Hopefully using the same attachment points/mechanisms as used to attach to the gear tunnel sled. 2. When removed from the gear tunnel, will the CK be able to be positioned with one side (one of the long edges) up against a wall such that it is still generally usable (fully? mostly?)? For example the CK from Thunderbolt Adventure Supply opens up like a clam shell… which would allow it to be positioned against a wall and still be fully opened because it would extend out away away from the wall. 3. When removed from the gear tunnel, will there be any CK features that will likely be unusable (or much less usable) because they are only usable if able to be approached from a specific side? For example if there are drawers planned to extend from both long sides, or sink/burner controls are only accessible from a specific side that might be against a wall in my use case. 4. When removed from the gear tunnel, if positioned with one side (one of the long edges) up against a wall, will the CK be fully usable within the 60” or so length… or are there features (drawers, etc) that will only be usable if extended beyond the 60” length footprint (for example drawers that would pull out from one end)? 5. When removed from the gear tunnel, will there be a way to still utilize any of the CK power distribution/outlets? For example, will it be as easy as just plugging the CK ‘master’ power cord into a wall outlet instead of a gear tunnel or gear tunnel sled outlet? Or because of the power distribution specifics being built into the gear sled, will power connections not be possible/accessible when the CK is detached from the sled? I realize this is a lot of specifics… any thoughts you can provide will help. Building design is well on its way… Thanks. A lot to unpack there but let's give it a go. First off, having a secondary use case for the CK is GENIUS. I am TOTALLY into this idea as it is why I have spent so many hours designing it as a "drop in" that can be used outside of the truck. 1. Yes but you may need to fabricate a cradle of sorts for the top of your cabinet so that the CK is easily / quickly "dropped in". This would be inexpensive and straight forward. I can provide CAD to speed things up, (I am happy to help) 2. Yes it can--again you would need to make provisions for it to still be a drop in, but it will work. Do keep in mind that the CK is sized to work in your truck--by this I mean even unfolded your "counter top" will be slightly under 24" deep and there is no back splash--though this is something you could build in that stays in your ADU like a tiled section. 3. The fold out has four 3" tall baskets / bins that are about 10" x 11". If you have the CK up against a wall those would not be accessible. Or not 5 times a day accessible at least. If you oriented the CK differently they could be accessible. 4. There are 18" drawers that slide out BOTH ends. I did it that way because it makes the CK more usable for non camping use--as in day to day usability. That said, the left end or drivers side end has a tilt up cover in the counter top that gives access from the top--so you could place that end against a wall or other structure and still access the storage. 5. You could simply plug the CK right into an outlet and it would energize the cooktop and both outlets. That being said, if you intend to run the cook top maxed out--both burners at 10--then you will want to wire that circuit as a 120V 20A and not the more typical 15A which is what the truck has. What you're doing is exactly why I'm not de-rating the cook top 1,000 w or similar. People are smart enough to manage the burners sensibly when the CK is being powered by the truck, and when they are on mains they can pull more. Some other items to consider: I may be able to make small changes to your specific CK to better suit your dual use. Emphasis on "may" as I do have to make sure it first and foremost works as well as possible at it's primary job--camping in the truck. Depending on your use case--how many people in your ADU, how often, dining habits, etc, the sink may be too small for 3 meals a day 7 days a week with multiple people. If you have a dishwasher it would be OK. You didn't ask about a water connection for the sink, but there will be an external screw on connection so connecting it to water would be easy. That being said, there is no provision for hot water. A small / inexpensive on-demand water heater would be a simple fix. I would need to give the plumbing some thought but I think it is doable. I hope this helps. I'm happy to answer as many questions as it takes to get your design sorted out.
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Post by phatdaddy on Jan 18, 2024 16:14:39 GMT
This is all GREAT news! Thanks for the detailed feedback. I understand there are likely to be some limitations in full utilization of the Camp Kitchen in a use case like mine. That I can easily accept! I will fabricate and/or design around the limitations as needed. Just want to maximize, as you said, the ‘secondary use’ as much as possible. I plan to fabricate around your ‘drop-in’ design criteria so that moving the camp kitchen components into the ADU is an easy switch. Ideally it would ‘disappear/blend-into’ the design of the ADU kitchen such that when out of the truck it is not even particularly noticeable as a separate part of the ADU kitchen. In my case I will likely install a separate full size sink and faucet, full size fridge, microwave/toaster oven, and additional kitchen storage and counter space. HVAC, water heater, and other infrastructure components will be factored in, and if any connect/disconnect plumbing (supply or drain) and power (including 20 amp service) connections are necessary to fully utilize the built in portions of the camp kitchen, I will make that happen. As much as anything, I get a place to easily store the camp kitchen when I want to use the gear tunnel for other purposes.
All your comments were helpful. The only surprise was: “There are 18" drawers that slide out BOTH ends”. Again, I will work around whatever I need to, but trying to picture the design. Was this feature based on the decision to allow the gear sled to be pulled from either side of the truck? Even as you’ve discussed the dual slide feature, I probably had a mental block thinking about how that might work with the camp kitchen. I assumed the camp kitchen would always be pulled from the driver’s side… but are you saying the camp kitchen can be pulled from either side? If so, great… just never occurred to me!
Again, thanks so much for all your design work and effort. This is going to be great!
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