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Post by Woto-Wootr on Aug 23, 2023 1:12:14 GMT
By chance is there any design element on the camp kitchen to allow for easy storage when not in use?
Possibly have it standing upright to minimize the floor space it will take up.
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Post by BoxGods on Aug 24, 2023 19:00:03 GMT
By chance is there any design element on the camp kitchen to allow for easy storage when not in use? Possibly have it standing upright to minimize the floor space it will take up. Hm. That is an interesting idea. I have designed a dolly / cart to make it easier to move around, but I had not considered storing it upright. I will keep that in mind as a possible option as the design moves forward.
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Post by Woto-Wootr on Aug 25, 2023 3:10:08 GMT
By chance is there any design element on the camp kitchen to allow for easy storage when not in use? Possibly have it standing upright to minimize the floor space it will take up. Hm. That is an interesting idea. I have designed a dolly / cart to make it easier to move around, but I had not considered storing it upright. I will keep that in mind as a possible option as the design moves forward. Appreciate any consideration towards storage when not in use and freeing up the gear tunnel. I’m guessing not a lot of people go camping enough to leave the camp kitchen in the tunnel all year long.
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Post by BoxGods on Aug 28, 2023 16:39:35 GMT
Hm. That is an interesting idea. I have designed a dolly / cart to make it easier to move around, but I had not considered storing it upright. I will keep that in mind as a possible option as the design moves forward. Appreciate any consideration towards storage when not in use and freeing up the gear tunnel. I’m guessing not a lot of people go camping enough to leave the camp kitchen in the tunnel all year long. I think the term for somebody that can camp that much is "Nomad". Or maybe "Homeless" =)
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Post by Woto-Wootr on Sept 18, 2023 15:40:37 GMT
By chance is there any design element on the camp kitchen to allow for easy storage when not in use? Possibly have it standing upright to minimize the floor space it will take up. Hm. That is an interesting idea. I have designed a dolly / cart to make it easier to move around, but I had not considered storing it upright. I will keep that in mind as a possible option as the design moves forward. I guess that's the trade off - one piece camp kitchen w/dolly vs. modular camp kitchen that can be broken down to take less space when not in the gear tunnel. Personally, I would prefer a modular camp kitchen because its easier to install/uninstall and store in the garage. With a one piece camp kitchen, install/uninstall is a bit more challenging and you'll have to account for more floor space for storage of the kitchen and dolly.
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Post by BoxGods on Sept 18, 2023 17:59:25 GMT
Hm. That is an interesting idea. I have designed a dolly / cart to make it easier to move around, but I had not considered storing it upright. I will keep that in mind as a possible option as the design moves forward. I guess that's the trade off - one piece camp kitchen w/dolly vs. modular camp kitchen that can be broken down to take less space when not in the gear tunnel. Personally, I would prefer a modular camp kitchen because its easier to install/uninstall and store in the garage. With a one piece camp kitchen, install/uninstall is a bit more challenging and you'll have to account for more floor space for storage of the kitchen and dolly. True. But you get a much better product in every other way. The current design is also not really a one piece design as the folding top is removable--so 2 pieces vs 3. I'm also working on one design change that MAY make it unnecessary or much less necessary to ever need to remove the kitchen at all. I will be posting more on that soon.
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Post by Woto-Wootr on Sept 18, 2023 20:37:40 GMT
I guess that's the trade off - one piece camp kitchen w/dolly vs. modular camp kitchen that can be broken down to take less space when not in the gear tunnel. Personally, I would prefer a modular camp kitchen because its easier to install/uninstall and store in the garage. With a one piece camp kitchen, install/uninstall is a bit more challenging and you'll have to account for more floor space for storage of the kitchen and dolly. True. But you get a much better product in every other way. The current design is also not really a one piece design as the folding top is removable--so 2 pieces vs 3. I'm also working on one design change that MAY make it unnecessary or much less necessary to ever need to remove the kitchen at all. I will be posting more on that soon. Awesome! Looking forward to it
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Post by citiz3nfiv3 on Oct 6, 2023 4:38:29 GMT
Sorry I haven't been active on here, but I've been a lurker! A few questions.
1) is the umbrella optional? I have a giant 270 awning and wouldn't need an umbrella. 2) I LOVE the new side drawer design allowing for access without sliding out the kitchen. My question here though, how do you access storage under the sink and third compartment? 3) Will drawer separators/organizers be available? It's a big drawer and vertical sections would be nice to keep things organized. 4) Will there be any faucet? I have the Dometic Go water tank and faucet and love that thing. I'd prefer to use that, especially if it cuts the cost down. 5) Maybe I missed it, but this is made of plastic correct? I don't love the wood of Thunderbolt since it's not sealed and won't hold up in our misty weather in Seattle.
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Post by BoxGods on Oct 7, 2023 4:31:06 GMT
Sorry I haven't been active on here, but I've been a lurker! A few questions. 1) is the umbrella optional? I have a giant 270 awning and wouldn't need an umbrella. 2) I LOVE the new side drawer design allowing for access without sliding out the kitchen. My question here though, how do you access storage under the sink and third compartment? 3) Will drawer separators/organizers be available? It's a big drawer and vertical sections would be nice to keep things organized. 4) Will there be any faucet? I have the Dometic Go water tank and faucet and love that thing. I'd prefer to use that, especially if it cuts the cost down. 5) Maybe I missed it, but this is made of plastic correct? I don't love the wood of Thunderbolt since it's not sealed and won't hold up in our misty weather in Seattle. 1 - You may want the umbrella still for "quick" stops or day camping where you might not want to drag out the big awning. Mostly it will depend on how many of the group wants it and on the MOQ required to get good pricing. 2 - There is no storage under the sink as we want the sink deep enough to actually fit plates and a fry pan etc. This sink will also be insulated so it can be used as an ice chest for day trips. The other end of the slide out will also have a drawer for easy access on the drivers side without sliding the kitchen out. It will also have access from the top when the kitchen is fully extended on the passenger side. 3 - The goal is to have smaller wire basket/trays for the top of the drawers that slide back and forth. So you can place larger items on the bottom and smaller items on the top. The drawers will also be aluminum. 4 - Yes there will be a fold down faucet. Several water options, but the best would be 12 gallons from the frunk tank via an on-demand pump. I will go into more detail as we progress. 5 - I live in a very humid climate -- sub tropical -- so the cabinet carcass will NOT be wood or anything that can absorb moisture. No musty "camper stink". The current design uses powder coated aluminum but I am also exploring forged carbon fiber. I would like to make the counter top from sealed bamboo as it is naturally moisture resistant, renewable, light weight, and has a lovely aesthetic. Other options would be stainless--kind of heavy--or aluminum. A few people have asked for stone but it's way to heavy for this application IMO. My goal is to have the countertop be user replaceable and I will include CAD drawings so anyone not crazy about the stock options can get a countertop made in any material they want. On the subject of moisture and the mildew smell. The side drawers are custom rubber coated wire baskets for ventilation, so no wood there either. The end drawers are aluminum. This adds a little cost vs wood, but WELL worth it IMO.
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Post by leonbmx on Oct 7, 2023 5:30:28 GMT
I'm so excited to see the end result!!
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Post by BoxGods on Oct 7, 2023 5:55:32 GMT
I'm so excited to see the end result!! Yeah--all of these Rivian projects are fun for me as a product designer (it's hard to get excited about a shampoo bottle or the 50th electronics enclosure), but the Camp Kitchen is especially interesting as it's a hundred little human interface problems/puzzles all intertwined.
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Post by zac on Oct 12, 2023 17:10:10 GMT
I'm so excited to see the end result!! Yeah--all of these Rivian projects are fun for me as a product designer (it's hard to get excited about a shampoo bottle or the 50th electronics enclosure), but the Camp Kitchen is especially interesting as it's a hundred little human interface problems/puzzles all intertwined. How are things progressing?
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Post by BoxGods on Oct 12, 2023 17:24:55 GMT
Yeah--all of these Rivian projects are fun for me as a product designer (it's hard to get excited about a shampoo bottle or the 50th electronics enclosure), but the Camp Kitchen is especially interesting as it's a hundred little human interface problems/puzzles all intertwined. How are things progressing? Still going. Winding down on my part of the frunk tank so I should be able to focus more on the other projects.
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Post by Patrick on Oct 22, 2023 2:47:16 GMT
Have you the pull kitchen. That’s what I think would be ideal in terms of design and material. But they went out of business.
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Post by BoxGods on Oct 22, 2023 14:43:09 GMT
Have you the pull kitchen. That’s what I think would be ideal in terms of design and material. But they went out of business. Doesn't ring a bell
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